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Boxes, cartons, labels and film

// For packaging converters

AI for packaging converters, tested first at the estimating desk.

For corrugated box and display plants, folding carton makers, and label and flexible packaging converters who make to customer specs. The first job is quotes from customer specs: style, size, board grade, print and tooling read from the request and costed from your own sheets. Proof checks are open too. Each test uses copies of finished work, with no logins to anything you run.

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Converter proof of conceptOwner signs off
First job
Quotes from customer specs
Also open
Proof checks before approval
You send
20 to 30 past quotes or proof rounds, once the NDA is signed
We touch
No ERP, estimating system or prepress workflow
Calls kept
Prices, structures and every proof approval
Kept out
Defense and aerospace work
Price
A range on the first call

// Why quoting first

Every quote you sent is an answer key

A converter sells almost nothing from a catalog. Each request names its own structure, size, board, print and quantities, and your estimator turns it into a costed quote, often the same day. The quotes you sent last quarter are the answer key. Your reviewer, the person on your staff who knows your costing best, can lay each AI draft beside the quote that actually went out, line by line.

Requests arrive in the trade's shorthand. A corrugated style may come as a code from the FEFCO-ESBO international case code, as RSC or HSC, or as your own die-cut number. Board may be named by edge crush test or by burst strength, cartons by grade and caliper in points, labels by face stock, adhesive and liner. A fair test asks whether AI reads that shorthand the way your estimator does, and asks the buyer when it can't.

Plants also cost board in different ways. A sheet plant buys combined board from a corrugator, so its costs start from what that supplier charges for sheets; an integrated plant runs its own corrugator. Many independents run more than one line. AICC, the Independent Packaging Association, began with corrugated converters and took in folding carton and rigid box makers in 2011. The test uses only the prices and rates you send, for whichever line goes first.

Proof checks are the second open test. A proof that goes out with the wrong barcode number, an old dieline or a certificate that doesn't match the board can mean new plates, a reprint or a load sent back. AI can list every difference between a proof and what the customer asked for. It cannot approve a proof, so it never does: your prepress team and the customer's signature still decide.

Your records sit wherever your plant keeps them. Corrugated plants often run Kiwiplan, part of Advantive since 2022, or Amtech's EnCore; label and flexible converters run ePS Radius, the former EFI Radius, or Label Traxx, which Amtech bought in 2024; structural designs often start in Esko ArtiosCAD. Plenty of estimators still cost in a workbook. Every test works from copies and exports, whatever the system.

The manufacturing pages share one limit, and it holds here: no defense or aerospace work. A converter that also makes packaging for defense programs tests on its commercial customers only.

// How it runs

Past jobs first, then a live month

  1. Step 01

    One job, on work already quoted or proofed

    Once the NDA is signed, your reviewer chooses 20 to 30 past quote requests with the quotes that went out, or 20 to 30 jobs with every proof round. If brand files can't leave the plant, we make look-alikes together.

  2. Step 02

    The owner picks the reviewer

    Before anything is shared, the owner chooses the reviewer, and the success criteria and a price range for running it live are written down. From then on the reviewer marks each draft against the quote or proof your team really sent.

  3. Step 03

    Live for about 30 days

    After a yes, the same steps run on new requests or new proofs for about 30 days, and nothing reaches a customer until a person approves the quote or sends the proof.

Jobs are priced one by one. You hear a range on the first call and get a fixed price when the proof of concept is over, before you sign.

For quoting, the range follows how many requests your estimators see in a month and how many are new structures; for proof checks, how many proofs go out and how many rounds a typical job takes.

// Questions

Questions converters ask

We run corrugated and folding cartons under one roof. Which side tests first?
Whichever side has the longer quote queue. The two are tested apart, on their own documents, because they cost differently: board by area on one side, press sheets and number up on the other. Your reviewer picks 20 to 30 requests from the side that goes first.
Will AI set our board prices or our margins?
No. Board cost comes from the price lists you send, dated to each quote, and margin rules come from your estimator. A line with no rate in your files goes to your estimator blank.
Do you need a login to Kiwiplan, Amtech or Radius?
No. You send copies of requests, quotes and costing sheets, and your reviewer gets drafts back as files to mark up. Connecting live drafts to your own software is a decision for after a yes.
Can AI approve proofs so jobs reach plating sooner?
No. It lists the differences between a proof and the customer's spec, dieline and copy, and your prepress team decides what to fix. The customer's signed approval still releases the job to plates and dies.
Do you design boxes or dielines?
No. Structural design stays with your designers and their CAD. The quoting test reads the style, size and dieline a buyer sends, and turns anything missing into a question for the buyer.
Rob Eason

Rob Eason, founder

// Book a proof of concept call

Start with last month's quote requests.

Half an hour on a call with Rob. Bring your company name, your role, the job you'd start with and a rough monthly count of quote requests or proofs. Specs, dielines and artwork stay in your plant until the NDA is signed.

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