// Welding supply distributors · Filler metal certificate requests
Filler metal certificate requests, read against the lot on your packing slip.
A fabricator's quality person emails for paper on wire bought last spring, and someone at your branch has to work out which lot went on that order, what kind of certificate the customer's PO is really asking for, and whether the maker has one. In a free AI proof of concept on copies of 20 to 30 requests your team already closed, AI lays each request beside the lot shipped and the maker's document for it, then lists what's missing. Your reviewer, the person at the branch who knows this work best, compares each draft with what your branch actually sent.
- Closed requests
- 20 to 30
- Filler metals recommended
- None
- Certificates attested or sent
- None; a person sends them
// The one job
From an emailed request to a sheet someone at the branch can check
The request rarely says enough. It may name a PO from months ago, a wire diameter, or only the project the wire went into. Someone looks up the order, finds the lot or heat on the pick ticket or packing slip, and goes to the maker's site, a shared folder or a sales rep for the document covering that lot. Then they read the customer's PO or the job's specification to see what it really wanted: a certificate of conformance, a test report tied to the lot, an EN 10204 type, or a line about domestic content.
For the test, AI reads copies of those files and drafts a certificate review sheet for each request: AWS classification and size, the lot or heat that shipped, the certificate type asked for, the PO's requirements as written, the maker's document matched to that lot, and whatever is missing. A person at the branch checks it and decides what goes out. Nothing leaves on a draft.
the maker's lot document
// What makes it hard
Where a filler metal certificate stops answering the request
A certificate can be narrower than its title. One maker's published lot document for submerged arc wire is headed Certificate of Analysis. It gives lot and heat numbers, AWS A5.17 and ASME SFA5.17, the class EM12K, and EN 10204 Type 3.1 certification, qualified in a parenthesis as covering actual chemistries only. The customer, P.O., marked-for, pack slip and pounds-shipped lines sit empty on the published copy. In a 2009 thread on a public materials and welding forum, a client that required 3.1 on consumables turned down a set with chemistry at 3.1 and mechanical properties at 2.2. The standard's 2004 revision cut its types to 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2, so a PO template still asking for 3.1B names a type that revision dropped. The draft quotes the type and the wording printed on each document and doesn't round up.
How much testing was bought is a term of the purchase. AWS A5.01, the society's procurement guidelines for consumables, gives a buyer a way to state a lot classification and a testing schedule. One maker's aluminum welding guide walks through it for aluminum wire and rod: lot classes S1 to S4, with S1 being the lot as the electrode maker's own quality manual defines it, and schedules F through K, where F is the maker's base standard and J puts each lot shipped through the usability test in AWS A5.10. If a PO named a class or schedule, a document for a standard lot may not answer it. The draft shows what the PO asked for and what the document shows, side by side.
Wire often gets certified as half of a pair. AWS classifies submerged arc filler as an electrode and flux combination, under A5.17 for carbon steel and A5.23 for low alloy, so a class line naming only the wire doesn't show the pairing a fabricator's procedure uses. The Federal Highway Administration's Bridge Welding Reference Manual has reviewers of gas-shielded procedures confirm that the electrode and gas combination appears on the maker's certificate of conformance. For fracture-critical work it also has them confirm that the certificate lists diffusible hydrogen or coating moisture testing. The draft notes each item the process calls for and whether the document carries it.
Owners write conditions of their own. Texas DOT's 2024 Item 448 on structural field welding calls, when requested, for a current Certificate of Conformance with acceptable Buy America wording, tests run on electrodes of the same class, size and brand made by the same process from the same materials, and resubmittal every 12 months. The FHWA manual says the Bridge Welding Code looks for a maker's quality program approved by one of three named bodies, falls back to heat and lot testing otherwise, and notes that a few owners keep approved lists. Canadian work adds CSA W48: the Canadian Welding Bureau's notice on false claims cites CSA S16 on electrodes meeting W48 and says only consumables that have kept their certification may advertise it, under the maker's trade name designation and point of manufacturing. These are named so your reviewer can check the draft's reading; nothing here is legal or engineering advice.
What your reviewer reads for. Usually the inside sales lead or branch manager who answers these requests, your reviewer checks that the lot came from that shipment and not the order before it, that the document fits the classification, size and lot, that the certificate type was read correctly, and that every gap stayed a gap. Choosing a filler metal is no part of this test. It reads what was sold and what the paper says about it.
// What you send
Closed requests and the paper behind them
20 to 30 closed requests
Each customer's email or form, with what your branch sent back. Put in one that needed an EN 10204 type, one that needed a flux or gas named, and one you couldn't fill.
What actually shipped
The PO, pick ticket or packing slip showing the lot or heat, plus any receiving record that ties a lot to a delivery.
The makers' documents
Certificates, test reports and lot records as you filed or downloaded them, from every maker you carry, whatever the format.
An NDA, then copies
Signed before anything moves. We never sign in to your ERP, a shared drive or a maker's portal. Customer names can be masked, and if files can't leave, your reviewer helps us build look-alike requests.
// Before it starts
Agreed before the first request is copied
A certificate speaks for metal already in a customer's weld, so the owner settles these first.
- Your reviewer
- Named by the owner, often the branch manager or inside sales lead
- Who sends
- A qualified person at the branch, in the test and live
- Success criteria
- In writing: lot found, document matched, certificate type read, gaps listed
- Sample
- Chosen by your reviewer, across several makers and certificate types
- Left out
- Defense and aerospace work
- Price
- A range for running certificate requests live
- NDA
- Signed before any request moves
// How it's judged
Each draft beside what your branch sent
| On the same 20 to 30 requests | What your branch found and sent | The AI draft |
|---|---|---|
| AWS classification and size read from the request and the order | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Lot or heat tied to the shipment, not a neighboring one | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Certificate type asked for, named correctly | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| PO requirements carried as written, including any schedule or Buy America wording | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Maker's document matched to that lot | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Flux or gas combination shown where the process needs it | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Missing items listed, not filled in | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
| Time from a request arriving to a sheet ready to check | Marked on your requests | Marked on your requests |
// After a yes
About 30 days on new requests
When your reviewer says yes against the success criteria, new certificate requests get the same review sheet for about 30 days.
A qualified person at the branch reads every sheet and sends every certificate. A request the draft couldn't match waits for them.
The live month has a fixed price you see before signing. Any other job is priced by itself.
// What could come next
After certificate requests, if you choose
- 01Next
Certificate flags on new orders
Filler metal POs that call for paper marked before the pick, so the lot with a document is the one pulled.
- 02Then
Safety data sheet requests
A customer's list of products matched to the current safety data sheet for each, for someone at the branch to send.
- 03Also open
Welding equipment repair quotes
Bench tickets for power sources, feeders and plasma cutters read into drafts for your service manager.
// One hard limit
It never recommends a filler metal or attests to a certificate.
The proof of concept works on copies alone. It never touches your ERP or a live order, never recommends a filler metal, never attests to a certificate or changes a maker's document, and never decides whether a lot satisfies a code or a PO. A qualified person at the branch sends every certificate. Defense and aerospace work stays out of the test.
Priced per job. You get a range before the proof of concept and a fixed price before you sign.
Rob sets the range on the call from how many requests reach your branches each month, how many makers you carry, and how your certificates are filed.
// Questions
Questions from the branch
What if our records don't show which lot shipped?
A customer wants a certificate with their PO number on it. Can the test do that?
Do you handle EN 10204 requests?
Do you connect to a maker's certificate site?
Can it handle submerged arc wire and flux, or gas-shielded wire?

Rob Eason, founder
// Book a call with Rob
Bring the certificate request that took longest.
Half an hour with Rob on your branches, your role, the job to test and roughly how many requests reach you each month. POs, requests and certificates stay with you until the NDA is signed.
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