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// Spring manufacturers · Print quote requests

A customer's spring print, read into a draft quote sheet for your estimator.

A print or specification sheet lands, and someone on your desk pulls out the wire, the coil, the free length, the ends, the load at length, the finish and the annual quantity, then works out what's missing or doesn't add up. In a free AI proof of concept, AI does that again on copies of 20 to 30 requests you already quoted, filling a draft quote sheet and listing every field missing or inconsistent for a person to resolve. Your reviewer, the estimator who knows this work best, checks each draft against the sheet your team actually built.

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Past requests
20 to 30
Springs designed
None
Jobs priced
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// The one job

From a print to a quote sheet with the holes marked

Requests come as a drawing with a title block, a filled-in spec sheet, a note asking to match a sample, or a table in an email, and each describes the spring in its own terms. Your estimator finds the wire size and material, the coil diameter, the free length, the active coils, the end type, the load at length as stated, the finish and the annual quantity. Then comes the part no form does: deciding what is missing or contradictory and what to ask the customer.

For the test, AI reads copies of those requests and drafts your quote sheet field by field, with each value tied to the place on the print it came from. A field the print doesn't give stays empty with a note. Where two numbers can't both hold, the sheet shows both and says why. Price, lead time and whether the spring can be made at all stay blank for your estimator, and nothing goes to a customer.

Spring printPDF, scan or spec sheet
Wire and material
Coil diameter
Free length
Ends
LoadAt lengthTolerance
Invented print, no customer's part
Read field by field
gaps listed for a person
Draft quote sheetFor your estimator
Wire and spec
Active coils
Finish and quantity
Fields to resolve
FieldAs statedFlag
Made-up sheet, for illustration

// Where a spring print goes wrong

Everything on a print depends on something else on the print

Check lists exist, and they allow gaps. SAE J1122, Helical Springs: Specification Check Lists, first issued in 1976 and stabilized in 2016, offers sample forms for compression, extension and torsion springs, in SI units with inch and pound values alongside, and says not every field has to be filled in. ISO 2162-2 sets a uniform system for tender and order drawings. It asks that the data show how a spring may be adapted during manufacture, and it wants a minimum inside diameter stated for a spring working on a rod and a maximum outside diameter for one working in a cylinder. A customer's own sheet may follow either, neither or a house form from another decade, so the draft maps what arrived onto your estimator's fields and marks the ones nobody stated.

End type changes the count. Machinery's Handbook lists four compression spring ends, open or plain, open and ground, closed, and closed and ground, each with its own formulas for pitch, solid height, active coils, total coils and free length, and its figures show right-hand and left-hand helix. A print that gives a coil count without saying active or total, or says closed without saying ground, isn't finished. The handbook also lets the coil count move so a maker can hit load, rate, free length and solid height, so a print fixing all of them at once has over-specified something. The draft runs the print's own numbers, for example a working length below the solid height they imply, and leaves the ruling to your estimator.

Extension and torsion springs are different documents. On an extension spring, the handbook counts all coils as active, and each full hook adds about half a coil of deflection, so two hooks take one coil off the total. Initial tension, the force that must be overcome before the coils begin to open, has to be read as a load in its own right. A torsion spring is specified by torque with the deflection or arm position at a definite point, usually in pound-inches, and the handbook says one load usually suffices because a second load and deflection add manufacturing and testing time. It also warns designers about the supporting rod, the shrinking inside diameter and the test method. The draft keeps a separate field set for each family, and for wire forms and flat springs as well.

A wire callout is a rung on a ladder. ASTM's published scopes sort the wire. A227 is cold-drawn wire for springs without high stress or demanding fatigue, A228 is music wire for high stress or good fatigue properties, and A229 is commercial quality quenched and tempered wire. A1000 sits between those commercial grades and the valve spring grades, and A313 covers stainless. A print saying only "spring steel" leaves far more open than one naming a specification and diameter. Inch-pound and SI values are separate systems, and A313 assumes inch-pound unless the order carries the M designation. A gauge number isn't a size either: the handbook's wire table has one column for US steel wire gage and another for music or piano wire gage. The draft copies each callout as written and asks when it can't be resolved to a diameter and a specification.

Loads carry units and conditions. NIST's conversion table puts one pound-force at 4.448222 newtons and one kilogram-force at 9.80665 newtons, and a print from an overseas plant can use either. The handbook ties a compression spring's load tolerance to its length tolerance and deflection from free length, says closer squareness needs special process techniques that add cost, and notes that tighter torsion tolerances mean testing and adjusting each spring. Those are costs for your estimator to weigh, so the draft carries the callout and flags it. Finish, annual quantity and test requirements may sit in a note or a PO instead of the print. Your reviewer, the estimator others bring hard prints to, will check that each field came from the right place, that every gap your team raised with the customer got listed, and that the sheet stayed silent on anything it wasn't given. Standards and handbooks are named for context; nothing here is engineering advice.

// What you send

Requests your estimators already worked

Copies only
No system logins
01

20 to 30 quoted requests

Each print or spec sheet as it arrived, with the quote sheet your estimator built. Mix compression, extension and torsion work, add a wire form or flat spring if you quote them, and include a request you had to go back to the customer on.

02

Your quote sheet and field list

The layout your estimators fill in and what each field means, including how you record active coils, end type and load points.

03

Questions your team asked

The emails or notes where someone asked about a missing load, a conflicting length or an unclear finish, along with what came back.

04

NDA first, copies only

Signed before any print moves. No login to your shop system or quoting tool, and nothing near a coiling machine. A print a customer won't let out of your building gets a look-alike, built with your reviewer, with the same kinds of gaps.

// Before it starts

Agreed before a single print is copied

Your owner and lead estimator put these in writing first.

Print quote test termsOwner decides
Your reviewer
Named by the owner, usually the lead estimator
Success criteria
In writing: which fields must match, how gaps and conflicts are scored
Sample
Picked by your reviewer across spring families and customers
Left blank on purpose
Price, lead time, design changes and whether it can be made
Price
A range for the live job, given up front
NDA
Signed before the first copy

// How it's judged

Each draft beside the sheet your estimator built

Request by request
Field by field
On the same 20 to 30 requestsSheet your estimator builtThe AI draft
Wire size, material and specification as the print states themFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Coil diameter, and whether it is inside, outside or meanFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Free length, and active or total coils labeled correctlyFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
End type and direction of windFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Load at length, with units and tolerance as statedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Finish and annual quantity, with where each was foundFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Missing or conflicting fields your estimator also raisedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Time from request received to a sheet ready for reviewFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Nothing is scored yet. Each cell waits for drafts built from your own past requests.Your reviewer marks each row and decides.

// After a yes

A month of new prints

With your reviewer's yes, new requests get the same sheet and gap list for about 30 days.

Your estimator approves every quote, sets every price and decides what goes back to the customer. A draft never reaches a customer or a live quote on its own, and the comparison keeps running through the month.

Any next job gets its own price, and monthly support follows once a job is running.

// Possible next jobs

What could follow print quotes

Ranked, not promised
One at a time
  1. 01

    Load test certificate packages

    A shipment's load readings, wire certificate and process records assembled for your quality manager to review and sign.

    Next
  2. 02

    Print revision comparisons

    A repeat part's new print compared with the last one you ran, changed fields first.

    Then
  3. 03

    Customer complaint files

    One lot's records pulled together when a broken spring comes back.

    After that

// One hard limit

It never designs a spring or prices a job.

Your shop system, your coiling machines and every live quote or certificate stay out of reach of this test. It never designs a spring, prices a job, judges a reading or signs a certificate, and it tells no customer anything. It reads and flags, and an estimator approves every quote. Defense and aerospace work stays out of the sample.

Priced per job. You get a range before the proof of concept and a fixed price before you sign.

Rob gives the range on the call, once he knows how many spring prints your estimators see in a month and how many customers' formats they arrive in.

// Questions

Quote desk questions

Will it tell us whether a spring can be made?
No. Manufacturability, wire choice and stress belong to your estimator and engineers. The draft reports what the print states and where its numbers disagree, then stops.
The print gives a load but no length. What happens?
The field stays empty and goes on the list of things to ask the customer. A load means little until it is tied to a length or a deflection, so the draft never assumes one.
Can it handle metric and inch values on the same request?
Yes. Each value stays in the units stated, and any conversion shows on the line. Pounds-force, newtons and kilogram-force are kept apart the same way.
Do you need our design calculations or spring software?
No. The test compares quote sheets, so design files stay with you unless your reviewer wants a job's worksheet included. We never log in to your design or quoting tools.
Can wire forms go through the same test?
Include a few. A wire form has no coil count or end type, so the sheet swaps in the bend list, leg lengths, material and finish the way your estimator records them, and design questions stay yours.
Rob Eason

Rob Eason, founder

// Book a proof of concept call

Start with prints your estimator had to call about.

Thirty minutes with Rob on your shop, your role, the job you'd test and how many spring prints reach you each month. Prints and quote sheets stay in your building until the NDA is signed.

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