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// Plastics extruders · Custom profile quotes

Custom profile quotes, read off the drawing and drafted for your estimator to price.

For custom extruders of profiles, tubing, pipe and sheet. One job, tested on RFQs you already quoted. AI reads the customer's profile drawing and RFQ into a draft quote sheet: resin and color callout, wall thickness and critical dimensions, cut length and packaging, annual quantity, whether a new die is needed, secondary operations, and each callout a person has to clear first. Your estimator checks every line.

Book a proof-of-concept call30 minutes with Rob
Past RFQs
20 to 30
Prices set
None
System access
None

// The one job

A drawing and an RFQ arrive. A filled quote sheet reaches your estimator.

A buyer sends a dimensioned print, maybe a sketch or a sample, and a few lines about quantity. Someone at your estimating desk reads the notes, works out what the resin and color callout really means, decides whether a die you already own will run it, adds cut length, packaging and secondary work, and sends questions back before anyone can price.

For the test, AI goes through copies of RFQs you already quoted and drafts your quote sheet one field at a time, noting where each value sits on the print. Anything the print or the RFQ leaves open goes on a list for your estimator, and no price or run rate is invented. Your reviewer, the person on your team who knows this quoting best, holds each sheet against what went back.

Profile drawing and RFQPrint, sketch or sample note
Resin callout
Wall thickness
Critical dimensions
Annual quantity
FeatureCalloutNote
Invented drawing, no customer's part
Read into
your quote sheet
Draft quote sheetFor your estimator
New die
Cut length, packaging
Secondary operations
Callouts to clear
LineValueWhere on the print
Invented sheet, for illustration

// What the estimator reads for

Why a profile print still needs a person to read it

A resin callout may name a class and no grade. ASTM D1784 classifies rigid PVC and CPVC compounds for extruded or molded use by base resin, notched impact, tensile strength, tensile modulus, deflection temperature and flammability, and buyers can order by class number. The City of Corpus Christi's water main specification, one public example, asks for Class 12454-A or 12454-B virgin compounds under that standard. Polyethylene pipe materials get a cell classification of their own in ASTM D3350, which says plainly that it isn't there to supply engineering data for design. So the draft copies exactly what the print says. A note like "rigid PVC, white, UV stable" or "or equal" goes on the list for your estimator to clear with the buyer.

A print may cite the finished product instead. ASTM D4726 sets requirements for window and door profile extrusions, among them dimensional stability, weatherability and extrusion quality. ASTM D3679 covers extruded single-wall siding: warp, shrinkage, impact strength, expansion, appearance and wind load resistance. AAMA 303 is the voluntary specification for rigid PVC exterior profiles in windows, doors and skylights. A callout to any of these can bring testing and paperwork on top of the extruding, so each one appears on its own line with the edition the print gives, and what it adds to cost stays with your estimator.

Wall thickness and critical dimensions answer the die question. Patents on profile tooling describe why: the thin walls of a hollow shape leave the die soft, so a calibrator uses vacuum to hold them against its aperture while water hardens them, and the section draws down when the puller outruns the melt leaving the die. A new or changed shape can mean a new die and new sizing tools. One custom extruder's published guidelines ask which dimensions are critical and whether a mating part engages the extrusion, along with the tolerances on both. The draft pulls those out, checks the die list you send for the same part number and revision, and marks the new die field yes, no or ask. For tube and pipe, a print that cites ASTM D2122 brings diameter, wall, out-of-roundness, length and straightness onto the inspection line.

Cut length, packaging and secondary work add lines of their own. Straight lengths, coils and reels ship differently, and a length that suits the customer's fixture may not suit your carton. That same guidelines page says highly cosmetic parts may need a liner, film or foam, wants tape described by size, color, liner type, foam or transfer and holding strength, and prefers a physical color sample to a PMS number, so "match to sample" gets its own note. Punching, notching, printing, drilling and fabrication land as separate lines at your rates. Corpus Christi's specification rejects unmarked or scratched pipe and wants an affidavit with each delivery, the kind of marking and paperwork requirement that is easy to miss on a first read.

Annual quantity isn't the same thing as a run. An RFQ may give annual usage, a first order or a release size, and the quote has to say which, along with lengths or coils to a lot and the minimum your line will run. The draft fills in only what the RFQ states and asks about the rest. The owner names your reviewer, usually the estimator or sales engineer who quotes profiles today, and they compare each sheet with the quote that actually went out: every callout read, the die answer, the packaging and secondary lines, and the questions your team asked the buyer. Standards are named here only as words a print may use; this page is not engineering advice.

// What you send

What your estimating desk pulls together

Copies only
Commercial work only
01

20 to 30 past RFQs

Each with the print, sketch or sample note, the buyer's message and the quote your estimator sent back. Include a new shape, a repeat at a new length and one you declined to quote.

02

What your estimator worked from

The quote sheet or worksheet behind each one and the notes explaining anything unusual. Handwritten margins are fine.

03

Your die list

Die numbers, the part each one runs, who owns it and whether it still runs. A spreadsheet export will do.

04

Packaging and secondary rates

Your carton, skid, coil and reel standards, and what you charge for cutting, punching, printing, taping and fabrication.

05

An NDA before any print moves

Signed first. No login to your quoting software, your ERP or a customer portal. If prints can't leave the plant, we build look-alikes with your reviewer.

// Before it starts

Written down before a single print is copied

The owner and your lead estimator agree on these before any drawing is shared.

Before the proof of conceptOwner decides
Your reviewer
Named by the owner, usually your lead estimator
Success criteria
In writing: which callouts must be read and which must come back as questions
New die
Yes, no or ask, judged against your own die list
Prices
Left for your estimator, in the test and after it
Price
A range for live quoting, given up front

// How it's scored

The quote you sent, beside the draft

RFQ by RFQ
field by field
Compared on the same RFQsWhat your team sentThe AI draft
Time from RFQ received to a sheet ready to priceFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Resin and color callout, as the print states itFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Wall thickness and critical dimensions capturedFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Cut length, coil or reel, and packagingFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
New die answered yes, no or ask against your die listFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Secondary operations listedFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Questions for the buyer that your estimator also raisedFilled in from your RFQsFilled in from your RFQs
Blank until your RFQs run. Each cell waits for a draft built on one of your own past quotes.Your reviewer marks every row and makes the call.

// After a yes

About 30 days on incoming RFQs

With a yes, each new RFQ gets a draft quote sheet as it arrives, for about 30 days.

Your estimator prices every line, clears every callout and decides what goes back. A person approves each quote before it reaches a customer or your quoting system, and the same table scores the live month.

// Possible next jobs

After profile quotes, if you choose

Ranked, not promised
Each priced alone
  1. 01

    Resin substitution requests

    A supplier's change or shortage turned into a draft request, with properties, statements and part numbers in one place.

    Next
  2. 02

    First-run sample reports

    The first run off a new die checked against the print and the quote, for your quality lead.

    Then
  3. 03

    Repeat orders at a new length

    Reorders read against the last quote, so a change in length or packaging reaches your estimator before anything is promised.

    After that

// One hard limit

It never sets a price and never touches a live quote.

The proof of concept never touches your quoting or ERP system or a live quote, and it sets no price, run rate, die charge or tolerance. It doesn't decide that one resin may replace another and it doesn't sign a compliance statement. Your estimator checks every quote. Defense and aerospace work stays out.

Priced per job. You get a range before the proof of concept and a fixed price before you sign.

Rob sets the range on the call from how many RFQs your estimators see in a month and how many of them need a new die.

// Questions

Questions about profile quotes

Can AI tell us whether a part needs a new die?
It checks the part number and revision against the die list you send and marks the field yes, no or ask. A shape it can't match goes to ask. Your estimator or die shop makes the call.
What happens with a sketch or a physical sample instead of a print?
A sketch gets read for whatever it actually states. A sample can't be read at all, so the draft notes that one exists and lists the dimensions and callouts your team would need from it.
Customers call out resin in different ways. Does the draft handle that?
It copies what the print says, whether that is a class number, a generic name or a specification reference, and lists anything that isn't a clear resin and color callout as a question. It never picks a grade.
We sell tubing on reels and profile in cut lengths. Can one test cover both?
Yes, if your reviewer picks some of each. Reels and straight lengths land on different quote lines, so a mixed sample shows whether the draft keeps them apart.
Do you need a login to our quoting software?
No. The test uses copies and exports and returns a sheet your estimator can mark up. How drafts would reach your own system is settled only after a yes.
Rob Eason

Rob Eason, founder

// Book a proof of concept call

Start with a folder of quoted profile RFQs.

Half an hour with Rob on your plant, your role, the job you'd test first and about how many RFQs your estimators see in a month. Prints stay with you until the NDA is signed.

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