// Metal fabricators · Estimating
Estimates from drawings and bid packages, drafted from your own past bids.
For structural, misc metals and sheet metal shops. One job, tested on bid packages you already priced. AI drafts the material takeoff, weights, cut, weld and finish operations, and the questions to send back, using your past estimates and rate sheet. Your estimator checks every line and sets the number.
- Past bids
- 20 to 30
- Rates used
- Only from your history
- System access
- None
// The one job
A bid package arrives. A takeoff and a question list come back.
A GC sends a plan room link with a bid date. Your estimator sorts out what is in your scope, counts every member, plate and sheet part, weighs them, adds the shop operations and the finish, and writes up the exclusions and the questions. Most of that is counting, and it starts over with every bid.
For the test, AI works through copies of packages you already bid and drafts the takeoff and the operations line by line, in the layout your estimates use, with each rate traced to a past estimate or your rate sheet. A line with no rate in your history stays blank for your estimator.
priced from your history
// Where fab estimates go wrong
What the takeoff has to get right
The takeoff is a weight. A W12x26 weighs 26 pounds per foot, so the shape name carries its weight, and angles, channels and HSS come from the same AISC tables. Steel plate runs about 40.8 pounds per square foot for each inch of thickness. Connection material, the clips, plates and bolts the design drawings may not show yet, is often carried as an allowance, and the draft uses the one your estimator applied on past jobs rather than making one up.
Sheet comes by gauge, and gauge depends on the metal. Sixteen gauge is 0.0598 in. on the steel table, 0.0635 in. for galvanized and 0.0508 in. for aluminum, so a part marked 16 ga. with no material is a question, not a takeoff. "Galvanized" is unclear too: G90 sheet under ASTM A653 carries a mill coating, parts dipped after fabrication are galvanized to A123, and the American Galvanizers Association notes the coatings differ a lot in thickness. Sheet parts are estimated from flat size, nesting on your stock sheets, cut length, pierce count and bends.
Shop labor follows the operations. Each piece gets its cut, holes or copes, fit-up, weld and cleanup, at the labor your past estimates carried for similar pieces. Weld size matters more than it looks, because fillet weld metal grows with the square of the leg: AISC's Modern Steel Construction worked an example where a 3/16 in. fillet made as a 5/16 in. weld nearly tripled the weld metal and the arc time. The draft reads weld sizes from the symbols on the drawings and lists any it can't read. Bent plate gets checked against the minimum inside radii ASTM A6 suggests for cold bending, and a tighter bend becomes a question.
Finish is often its own quote. Galvanizing usually comes from your galvanizer's quote or rate sheet, and the draft uses those numbers as given. Tube and other closed shapes need vent and drain holes before they go in the kettle, so a galvanized HSS frame with none shown is a question. Painted steel depends on the surface prep the spec names: an SSPC-SP 6 commercial blast is a different job from SSPC-SP 3 power tool cleaning.
Scope and questions decide the bid. Structural framing usually sits in spec section 05 12 00, while lintels, shelf angles and similar items fall under 05 50 00 metal fabrications, with stairs at 05 51 00 and railings at 05 52 00, and a GC's scope sheet may split them differently. The AISC Code of Standard Practice gives the engineer of record three options for connections: shown complete on the drawings, completed by the detailer, or designed by a licensed engineer working for the fabricator. When the drawings don't say which, that is the first question. Your reviewer, the estimator who knows your numbers best, checks every quantity, rate source and question against the bid you actually sent.
// What you send
What your estimating desk sends
20 to 30 past bid packages
Drawings, specs and addenda for bids you priced, won and lost, with the estimate your team sent. Mix structural, misc metals and sheet work the way your bids come in.
The estimates behind them
Takeoff and labor detail from Tekla PowerFab, another estimating system or a spreadsheet, so every rate in a draft traces to one of yours.
Your rate sheet
Shop rates, galvanizer and painter prices, and how you carry connection material, freight and detailing. Your estimator's own notes will do.
An NDA before any drawing moves
Signed first. Bid documents often carry the owner's and GC's confidentiality terms. No login to your estimating system or plan room.
Look-alike packages, if needed
If bid documents can't leave your office, we put together look-alike packages with you that keep the same mix of shapes, sheet parts and finishes.
// Before it starts
Agreed before the first package moves
The owner and the chief estimator settle these before any drawing is shared.
- Your reviewer
- Named by the owner, usually the chief estimator
- Success criteria
- In writing: quantities, weights and questions that must match
- Rates
- Your past estimates and rate sheet, nothing else
- Price
- A range for live estimating, given up front
- Bids
- Picked by your reviewer, winners and losers both
// How it's scored
Your estimate beside the draft
| Compared on the same bids | What your estimator sent | The AI draft |
|---|---|---|
| Hours from package received to takeoff ready for review | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Members, plate and sheet parts counted, with sizes and lengths | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Total weight by shape, plate and sheet gauge | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Cut, hole, weld and finish operations listed for each piece | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Every rate traced to a past estimate or your rate sheet | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Scope split by spec section, with exclusions noted | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
| Questions for the GC that your estimator also asked | Filled in from your bids | Filled in from your bids |
// After a yes
About 30 days on live bids
With a yes, new bid packages get a draft takeoff and question list as they arrive, for about 30 days.
Your estimator checks, edits and prices every draft, and nothing goes to a GC unless a person sends it. Lines with no rate in your history stay blank for them to fill, and the same comparison scores the live month.
// Later, ranked
Where estimating leads
- 01Next
Change orders from revised drawings
A new revision compared with the set you bid, with added and removed steel listed for your project manager's change order.
- 02Then
Material buys from the takeoff
The won estimate turned into a buy list against stock and drops, for your purchasing lead to place.
- 03After that
Mill test reports into the cert package
Each MTR matched to its PO line and heat when steel arrives, for your QC lead to check.
// One hard limit
It never sets a price that isn't in your history.
Every rate in a draft comes from one of your past estimates or your rate sheet, and the draft shows which. A line with nothing to trace to stays blank for your estimator. Margin, the bid number and what goes to the GC are your estimator's and owner's calls.
Estimating is priced as a job of its own: a range up front, then a fixed price after the proof of concept and before you sign.
We size the range on the call from how many bids you price a month and how many drawing sheets a typical package has.
// Questions
Estimating questions
Can AI read the drawings and do the takeoff?
Will it come up with our price?
We bid structural, misc metals and some sheet metal. Can one test cover all of it?
Does it replace our estimating software?
Where do galvanizing and paint prices come from?

Rob Eason, founder
// Book a proof of concept call
Test it on bids you already priced.
Thirty minutes with Rob. The form asks for your company and role, the job you want tested, and roughly how many bid packages reach your estimators each month. Keep drawings back until the NDA is signed.
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