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// Custom thermoformers · Part and tooling quote requests

Part and tooling quote requests, read off the drawing and drafted for your estimator.

For heavy-gauge and thin-gauge contract formers. One job, tested on requests you already quoted. AI reads the part drawing and the customer's request into a draft quote sheet: sheet material and starting gauge as stated, minimum finished wall, draw and tolerance callouts, any flame or food-contact requirement the customer named, tooling type, trimming, annual quantity, and the fields a person has to settle. Your estimator prices every part.

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Past requests
20 to 30
Prices set
None
System access
None

// The one job

A drawing and a request arrive. A filled sheet reaches your estimator.

A customer's engineer or buyer sends a part drawing and a few lines of notes: a material, a gauge or a minimum wall, a texture, perhaps a flame or food-contact line, and a yearly number. Someone at your estimating desk works out what the print really asks for, which tool and trim it needs, and what's still open before anyone can price the sheet, the tool or the part.

For the test, AI goes through copies of requests you already quoted and fills your quote sheet field by field, noting where each value came from on the drawing or in the message. What the customer left open goes on a list for your estimator, and nothing is priced or guessed. Your reviewer, the person on your staff who knows this quoting best, holds each sheet against what actually went back.

Part drawing and requestPrint, model or email
Material callout
Gauge or wall
Tolerance notes
Annual quantity
FeatureCalloutNote
Invented drawing, no customer's part
Read into
your quote sheet
Draft quote sheetFor your estimator
Starting gauge, as stated
Minimum finished wall
Tool and trim
Fields to settle
FieldValueWhere it came from
Invented sheet, for illustration

// What the estimator reads for

Why a thermoforming print still needs a person

Starting gauge and finished wall are two different promises. SPE's Thermoforming 101 column on down gauging, from 2007, asks why custom thermoformers state a starting gauge on proposals when a buyer cares how the finished part performs. It says that when an RFQ names no gauge, many shops quote two or more, and that a stated gauge is often carried over from a competitor's proposal or an old spec. So the draft keeps separate fields for the gauge as stated and for the minimum finished wall or the range of walls the print gives, with each location it names. A request that fills in only one gets a question, never a guess.

The tool decides where the sheet gets thin. SPE's 2005 tutorial on how a sheet stretches says forming into a female cavity leaves the wall thickest at the rim and thinnest at the bottom corner, and forming onto a male tool tends the other way. The side against the mold holds the more accurate dimension, so it is chosen when a part mates with another, and a liquid-tight container with an integral lid may need one half formed female and the other male. One sheet maker's wall thickness brief works a flanged rectangular cavity from 0.125-inch sheet: about 0.079 inch on a male mold and about 0.031 inch on a female mold, with the last formed edges thinnest of all. The draft carries any note about tool side, mating surface or the surface the customer cares most about into the tooling field.

Tooling and trimming are their own lines. SPE's tutorial on mold materials says most commercial molds are aluminum, larger ones cast and smaller ones machined from plate, with wood used for straight vacuum-formed prototypes and electroformed nickel reserved for extremely fine detail. Its thin-gauge trimming column calls the steel rule die the most common method, with punch-and-die or matched metal dies at high production; its thick-gauge column runs from hand routers to CNC routers and, for flat trim lines on parts such as tote boxes and refrigerator liners, to saws and guillotines. Heavy-gauge parts may sit in a fixture between forming and trimming, and polypropylene goes on crystallizing after forming, so the design trim line and the final edge can differ. The draft records any tool type, trim method or existing tool number the request names, and the choice stays with your estimator.

A material name, a grain or a third-decimal tolerance isn't finished information. SPE's 2005 column on concept and reality warns that specifying general purpose polystyrene isn't enough, that a list of property requirements has to follow, and that not every grade meeting them is made as sheet. A published thermoforming manual from one sheet maker says a three-to-one draw spreads a grain about three times, with texture valleys thinning more than peaks. The same manual questions tolerances held to the third decimal, since a 20-inch part measures about 0.05 inch shorter at 20°F than at 70°F, and it says most amorphous sheet takes up moisture and may need drying, a step that can change with thickness. The draft copies each callout as written and lists the ones that leave something open.

Flame and food-contact lines stay exactly as written, and your reviewer checks the rest. A rail customer may cite 49 CFR Part 238, whose Appendix B names ASTM E 162 for surface flammability and ASTM E 662 for smoke density, bars flaming running or dripping, and reads E 662 in whichever mode, flaming or non-flaming, gives the most smoke. The draft sets each requirement on its own line, with any thickness it applies to, beside the minimum wall. SPE's own list of reasons not to quote, parts needing uniform or stepped walls, tolerances thermoforming can't hold, trim accuracy your shop can't reach, is a useful checklist. The owner names your reviewer, usually the lead estimator, who compares each sheet with the quote that went out. Standards are named only as words a print may use; none of this is engineering or legal advice.

// What you send

What your estimating desk pulls together

Copies only
Commercial work only
01

20 to 30 past requests

Each with the drawing, the customer's message and the quote your team sent. Mix heavy-gauge and thin-gauge if you run both, and include a new tool, a repeat with a change and one you passed on.

02

The worksheet behind each quote

Your estimator's sheet, the gauge reasoning, a blank or web layout, and any notes on the odd ones. Handwriting in the margin counts.

03

Tool and trim records

Tool numbers, tool type, plug, trim fixture or die, who owns each one and the part it runs. A spreadsheet export is plenty.

04

Your quote sheet layout

The form or workbook your estimators fill in, with the fields that must be settled before anyone prices. Rates can stay out, because the draft never uses them.

05

An NDA before a drawing moves

Signed first, and often your customer's own confidentiality terms apply as well. No login to your ERP or quoting workbook, and none to a customer portal. If drawings can't leave the plant, your reviewer helps us build look-alikes.

// Before it starts

Written down before the first drawing moves

The owner and your lead estimator settle these in writing.

Before the proof of conceptOwner decides
Your reviewer
Named by the owner, usually your lead estimator
Success criteria
Which fields must be read, which must come back as questions
Gauge and wall
Copied as stated, never chosen
Prices
Left to your estimator, in the test and after it
Price
A range for the live job, given up front
Out of scope
Defense and aerospace

// How it's scored

The quote you sent, beside the draft

Request by request
field by field
Compared on the same requestsWhat your team sentThe AI draft
Time from request received to a sheet ready to priceFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Sheet material and starting gauge, as statedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Minimum finished wall and where the print measures itFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Draw, tolerance and texture calloutsFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Flame and food-contact requirements the customer namedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Tool type, tool side and trim, as statedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Annual quantity and what it coversFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Open fields your estimator also questionedFilled in from your requestsFilled in from your requests
Empty today. No cell gets filled until your own closed requests have run through it.Your reviewer marks every line and makes the call.

// After a yes

About 30 days on incoming requests

For about 30 days after a yes, live requests go through the same sheet, one by one.

Your estimator sets the gauge, the tool and the price, then decides what goes back. No quote reaches a customer or your shop system unless a person approves it, and the same table keeps scoring the month.

// Possible next jobs

After quote requests, if you choose

Ranked, not promised
Each priced alone
  1. 01

    Resin compliance letter requests

    The paperwork a customer asks for once a part is quoted, matched to your sheet supplier's letter, grade and date, for your quality manager.

    Next
  2. 02

    Sheet purchase requests

    A won job's material, gauge, color, texture and size written up for your buyer to send to sheet suppliers.

    Then
  3. 03

    First-article wall checks

    Thickness readings at the print's named points set beside the minimum wall each one calls for, for your quality lead.

    After that

// One hard limit

It never prices a part and never touches a live quote.

The proof of concept never touches your shop system or a live quote. It sets no price, gauge, tool build or trim method, it doesn't decide that a material complies, and it doesn't sign a statement. Your estimator approves every quote. Defense and aerospace work stays out.

Priced per job. You get a range before the proof of concept and a fixed price before you sign.

Rob sets the range on the call from how many requests your estimators see in a month and how many need a new tool.

// Questions

Questions about thermoforming quotes

Can AI tell us what starting gauge to quote?
No. The draft copies any gauge or minimum wall the customer stated and lists what's missing. Your estimator or tool designer decides the gauge from your own know-how and any forming simulation you run.
Some of our requests give no gauge at all. How is that handled?
The gauge field stays empty and the request goes on the question list. Your reviewer decides before the test how a past quote that offered two gauges will be scored.
We get a 3D model with no print. Can those be tested?
Send what your estimator actually worked from. If a model came with no print, the draft says so and lists the callouts nobody wrote down, such as wall, tolerance and texture.
Will it read our customers' food-contact or flame requirements?
Yes, exactly as the customer wrote them, each on its own line with any thickness the request gives. Deciding whether your material meets a requirement stays with your quality manager.
We run heavy-gauge and thin-gauge. Is one sample enough?
One sample can hold both if your reviewer picks some of each. Heavy-gauge covers and thin-gauge trays ask different things of a quote sheet, so a sample with both shows whether the draft can tell them apart.
Do you need a login to our ERP or quoting workbook?
No, nobody signs in to either. We work from copies of what you send and hand back a sheet for your estimator. Any link to your shop system gets discussed only if the test passes and you want to go live.
Rob Eason

Rob Eason, founder

// Book a proof of concept call

Start with a folder of parts you already quoted.

Thirty minutes on the phone with Rob about the parts you form, which side of the plant sees more requests and roughly how many arrive in a month. Drawings stay with you until the NDA is signed.

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