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// Commercial painting contractors · Bid sheets

Bid sheets from the paint finish schedule, by surface and system, with every conflict listed for your estimator.

Commercial painting estimating, tested as a free AI proof of concept on copies of 20 to 30 bids your estimators already priced. AI reads the finish schedule, the door and frame schedule and the painting section and drafts a bid sheet by surface and system: wall and ceiling codes, primer and coat count, gloss, doors and frames, exposed structure and wall-covering exclusions, plus every room or surface the documents disagree on. Your reviewer, the estimator who knows your bids best, compares each draft with the sheet your team carried.

Book a proof-of-concept call30 minutes with Rob
Past bids
20 to 30
Prices set by AI
None
Live bids touched
None

// The one job

From three documents to one sheet your estimator can price

A school addition or hospital wing reaches your desk as a finish schedule with a code in each room's wall and ceiling columns, a door and frame schedule on another sheet, and a painting section that says what each code is made of. Somebody reads all three, turns codes into systems, decides what is yours and what belongs to another trade, and writes the list of things the bid leaves out. Most of the risk sits where those documents don't line up.

For the test, AI reads copies of those documents and drafts the bid sheet: each surface with its code, primer and finish coats, gloss, door and frame treatment, and whether exposed structure or wall covering is in or out, each line citing its sheet or section. Every room, tag or surface the documents disagree on goes on its own list. It writes no price and sends nothing.

Finish scheduleFrom the drawings
Room no.
Wall code
Ceiling code
Door and frame
RoomWallCeiling
Made-up example schedule
Read against
doors and spec
Draft bid sheetFor your estimator
System
Primer and coats
Gloss
Excluded
SurfaceSystemFlag
Made-up example sheet

// Where it gets hard

One code can mean three things on three sheets

The word on the schedule isn't always the gloss in the section. MPI gloss levels run from 1 to 7 on readings at 60 and 85 degrees, and the names attached to them drift. Texas State University calls Level 3 eggshell and Level 2 a high-side sheen flat, while the University of Colorado's Anschutz Medical Campus accepts eggshell as Level 2 or Level 3, each with its own MPI number. Anschutz also writes gloss as Level 6 with a floor of 65 units at 60 degrees, below the 70 to 85 units Texas State's definition gives. The draft carries the level the section names beside the word the schedule used, and lists any pair that doesn't match.

A system gets counted coat by coat, and some coats are someone else's. Anschutz writes most systems as a prime coat, an intermediate coat matching the topcoat and a topcoat, and reserves its dry-fall systems for overhead work, with the prime coat on that steel coming as a shop primer under Division 05. Northwestern University sends shop priming of structural steel, metal fabrications, stairs and railings to those trades' sections, and lets the painter drop a scheduled primer on factory-primed items if the topcoat maker accepts it. The University of Houston's hollow metal section lists the exposed finish on its door and frame types as prime. The draft counts each coat the section requires, says who applies it, and lists any primer it can't place.

Doors and frames have their own rulebook. New York State's 2024 master spec paints them the color of the adjacent wall in the next highest gloss, unless noted, and when a wall changes color from one side of a frame to the other, the color changes at the inside corner of the frame stop. Non-ferrous hardware, frame mutes and weather stripping stay unpainted. MPI's April 2022 interior guide makes semi-gloss, its G5, the default on doors, frames and trim unless noted or scheduled, has doors taken down to reach their top and bottom edges and then rehung, and wants rating and instruction labels protected. A 2023 Mississippi school addendum simply says new wood doors are painted to match existing ones. Every opening goes on the sheet with its door, frame and edge treatment.

Exposed structure and wall covering turn on a single sentence. That same addendum says all exposed structural elements are to be painted unless noted otherwise. PCA P23, the Painting Contractors Association's standard on implied exclusions, leaves exposed steel and concrete ceilings, ducts, conduit and sprinkler piping out of a painter's scope unless the documents explicitly say otherwise, and New York lists top flanges of composite beams among items not to be painted. Northwestern keeps one list for equipment rooms and another for occupied spaces. Wall covering splits the other way: MPI's guide has the painter prepare and prime surfaces for it, and the University of Houston wants that primer mildew resistant and recommended in writing by the wall-covering maker, so the goods can be excluded while the primer stays in. The draft quotes the sentence that settles each item, or says none does.

Tags, addenda and measuring rules decide the rest. Addendum 2 for Belmont Cragin Elementary School, from Chicago's Public Building Commission in April 2021, added PT-9 to the finish schedule, moved a lounge wall from PT-5 to PT-4 and revised WC-2 as window coverings, while its plumbing sheets use WC-2 as a fixture tag. PCA P10 measures open web joists as if solid, doubling the area when both sides are finished, and deducts openings of 100 square feet or more. PCA P3 grades color from Level I, one color for a whole project, to Level IV, unlimited colors, and says material cost rises as colors deepen; the Mississippi sheet leaves its two paint colors to the architect. Your reviewer will look first at rooms found on one document only, gloss words that don't match the section, primers with no owner, exposed items with no sentence behind them, and tags read outside their own legend.

// What you send

Bids your estimators have already priced

Copies only
No logins
01

20 to 30 finished bid sheets

For each job, the sheet or takeoff your estimator carried and the proposal it fed, exclusions included. Mix new construction with repaints, and add one that moved after an addendum.

02

The documents behind them

Finish schedule and legend, door and frame schedule, painting and high-performance coating sections, the wall-covering section and every addendum, as they reached your desk.

03

How your estimators count

Your measuring rules, the coats you carry by system, how you treat doors and frames, and your standard exclusions list. A page of notes will do.

04

NDA, then copies

Owners' drawings and your numbers are private, so the NDA comes before any file moves. We never log in to your estimating or job cost system. If a bid has to stay in the building, your reviewer helps us build a look-alike of it.

// Before it starts

Agreed before the first schedule changes hands

The owner writes these down. How exposed structure and exclusions are scored decides much of the grading.

Bid sheet test termsOwner signs off
Your reviewer
Named by the owner, often the chief estimator
Success criteria
Written first, for systems, coats, gloss, openings and exclusions
Measuring rules
Your estimators' own, written down before the first draft
Sample
Picked by your reviewer, with a repaint and an addendum
Bid sheets
Each one read by your estimator, none used on a live bid
Price
A range for the live job, before day one
NDA
Signed before any drawing or bid sheet moves

// How it's judged

Each draft beside the sheet your estimator carried

Surface by surface
Line by line
On the same 20 to 30 bidsYour estimator's sheetThe AI draft
Wall and ceiling code for every roomMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Primer and finish coats by system, and who applies eachMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Gloss level, beside the word the schedule usedMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Door, frame and edge treatment by openingMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Exposed structure: in or out, with the sentence behind itMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Wall-covering goods and primer, splitMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Color count, and what the documents leave openMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Rooms and surfaces the documents disagree onMarked on your bidsMarked on your bids
Blank until your bids are in. Not one row is scored before your own sheets sit beside the drafts.Your estimator marks each row against the criteria agreed first.

// After a yes

A month of live finish schedules

After your reviewer's yes, finish schedules out for bid run through the same job for about 30 days.

Your estimator approves every bid sheet before a number is written, and your team still sends every proposal.

You fix the live job's price before signing. Anything after it is priced alone, and monthly support begins once a job is running.

// What could come next

After bid sheets, if you choose

Ideas, ranked
One job at a time
  1. 01

    Extra work tickets

    Field tickets and directives for work beyond the painting section gathered into one record per item, ready for your project manager to price.

    Next
  2. 02

    Submittal packages by paint system

    Product data and step-coated samples for each system, labeled with the same designations the drawings and schedules use.

    Then
  3. 03

    Daily coating inspection logs

    On public steel and tanks, a shift's field records compiled into the owner's form for a qualified person to sign.

    After that

// One hard limit

Your estimator sets the number, and no live bid comes near this test.

The proof of concept works on copies of bids you already finished. It never logs in to your estimating or job cost system, never touches a live bid and contacts no general contractor, architect or owner. It never decides that a surface is ready to coat or that a coating meets a specification, and an estimator checks every bid sheet. Which exclusions stand and which standards govern stay with your team and the design team, and this page gives no legal or engineering advice. Certified payroll is out of scope.

Priced per job. You get a range before the proof of concept and a fixed price before you sign.

The range depends on how many finish schedules cross your estimators' desks in a month, and how often steel, tanks or high-performance coatings are in the mix.

// Questions

Bid sheet questions from painting estimators

Will it count square footage for us?
It uses areas the drawings state and marks anything it had to scale from a sheet so your estimator can check it. Your own measuring rules, including which openings come out, are written down before the test starts. No quantity reaches a bid without your estimator.
Can it pick production rates or spread rates?
No. Those are yours and stay with you. The sheet stops at surface, system, coats and scope, and your estimator applies the rates and sets the number.
What happens when the finish schedule and the painting section disagree?
Both versions go on the sheet with their sheet or section numbers, and the conflict goes on the list. Your estimator decides how to carry it or whether to ask a question. The draft never picks a winner on its own.
Our specifications name particular paint products. Is that a problem?
No. The draft records the product or MPI number the section names and any approved-equal wording. It never proposes a substitute, and any substitution request stays with your team.
Can it handle a door schedule with hundreds of openings?
Yes, if the schedule is in your sample. Each opening gets its own line with door, frame and edge treatment, and repeated types are grouped only where your estimator's rules say to. Your reviewer checks a run of openings against the sheet your team carried.
Rob Eason

Rob Eason, founder

// Book a call with Rob

Bring one finish schedule and its door schedule.

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